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Community :: RE: turtle power!

Author: Enzo1997
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 5:43 pm (GMT -5)
Topic Replies: 11

Is it turtling if you kill someone with 5 cards?

∞ Enzo1997 scratches his head ∞

Community :: RE: Nims REALLY Funny quotes of the week...

Author: Nimrod7
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 5:07 pm (GMT -5)
Topic Replies: 205

SuperGood: <---never drinks...me and deez never drink

Community :: RE: I miss SuperGood

Author: supergood
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:38 pm (GMT -5)
Topic Replies: 18

OK, this thread is getting off-topic...let's go back to how everyone misses me! : ) Thanks everybody! Don't know if I'll be playing anymore..maybe. I guess I am a busy person...I do have a lot of kids and all...sometimes I have so many I forget their names. J/K But I do check the forums now and then.

Lux is still the best online game out there!

Community :: RE: I miss SuperGood

Author: THE J-Dude
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:06 pm (GMT -5)
Topic Replies: 18

NimMod IS being outclowned by ME!
Yes I know I'm not gonna be a frikin Cl0wn!

Community :: RE: I miss SuperGood

Author: Lux Llama
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:34 pm (GMT -5)
Topic Replies: 18

I think the great Nimrod7 is being outclowned by a J-Newbe

Community :: RE: I miss SuperGood

Author: Nimrod7
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:26 pm (GMT -5)
Topic Replies: 18

If I was some photoshop guru, my maps would be a lot prettier.

∞ Nim gives up ∞

Community :: RE: I miss SuperGood

Author: THE J-Dude
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:52 am (GMT -5)
Topic Replies: 18

Well... at least we know it was AFTER NimMods mod inaguration??? Maybe it WASNT maybe he is a PHOTOSHOP expert and photoShopped it!

Community :: RE: I miss SuperGood

Author: Big Will E Style
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:36 am (GMT -5)
Topic Replies: 18

Yeah, Nim must have taken a picture of the last time he saw Super online, just for when this moment came!

Community :: RE: I miss SuperGood

Author: THE J-Dude
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:15 am (GMT -5)
Topic Replies: 18

Who knows when you took the picture with ur computer tho... it coulda been 1 day ago 1 month ago 1 year ago...2 years... all that means is the active people over the past 5 min of WHEN you TOOK the picture... you F0rumTr00lCh00b!

Community :: RE: I miss SuperGood

Author: Nimrod7
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:05 am (GMT -5)
Topic Replies: 18

You forum n00b!!! All that says is that on April 24, 2006 199 people were logged into the forums which is the most ever.

Plus, it clearly states at the bottom "This data is based on users active over the past five minutes."

Epic sucess!

Community :: RE: I miss SuperGood

Author: Smashley
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:57 am (GMT -5)
Topic Replies: 18

i lurked hard and noticed that login was april 2006! epic fail.

Community :: RE: I miss SuperGood

Author: ratmouse
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:46 pm (GMT -5)
Topic Replies: 18

n00less cluebie wrote:

frickin lurkers.....

I was lurking when i read this you lurker hater

Community :: RE: Week off. Happy thanksgiving.

Author: The Silken Knot
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:31 pm (GMT -5)
Topic Replies: 4

Happy birthday, Shock! Enjoy your break...

Community :: RE: I miss SuperGood

Author: n00less cluebie
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:15 pm (GMT -5)
Topic Replies: 18

frickin lurkers.....

Community :: RE: I miss SuperGood

Author: Nimrod7
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:37 pm (GMT -5)
Topic Replies: 18

Community :: RE: Black Pope is alive and well!!!!

Author: Nimrod7
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:31 pm (GMT -5)
Topic Replies: 14

The debate on Catholicism may be continued here: http://sillysoft.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=18680

Community :: RE: turtle power!

Author: Big Will E Style
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:02 pm (GMT -5)
Topic Replies: 11

I've said this before...but cowardly turtling stems from our ranking system. If you can lose more for 6th than you can get for 1st, it is going to cause people to want to avoid 6th place at all costs. If you start the game as a nomad and in 6th position, your chances of 6th place increase dramatically. Strategic turtling can stem from similar circumstances, but when it comes down to it, turtling is a problem because of the RAW system we have in place.

I agree with Soundboy. I consider it asshatting if someone is so worried about a turtle that they don't play to win in order to not lose to the turtle. It seems quite hypocritical to me. Turtles first should usually be applied when someone already has a game wrapped up and you are next to go.

Community :: RE: turtle power!

Author: mnemosyne
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:58 pm (GMT -5)
Topic Replies: 11

thanks for the thoughtful replies, and sorry about the the immature imagery re: classic play, manimal. there does seem to be a pretty uniform style of play in classic with certain players, and anybody who strays from that is given "the treatment."

i agree with most of what has been said. strategic turtling is (sometimes) boss, cowardly turtling is not. and even though i politely disagree with nimrod about turtling, i have less of an issue with turtle income getting popped.

thanks also for calling my attention to the other threads, i am not terribly familiar with the forums part of lux.

glad to hear there are a few others (soundboy's stock value just skyrocketed). to modify a reference from shadowlands: why do we [lux]? we [lux] to know we are not alone!

tgif

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Community :: RE: I miss SuperGood

Author: Big Will E Style
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:55 pm (GMT -5)
Topic Replies: 18

In all seriousness, SuperGood is one of my favorites too. She always played to win, was fun to chat with and never took life too seriously on here. Overall a fun opponent.

Community :: RE: Week off. Happy thanksgiving.

Author: Odelay
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:48 am (GMT -5)
Topic Replies: 4

Happy trails, and happy birthday.

Community :: RE: turtle power!

Author: *Manimal
Subject: Re: turtle power!
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:01 am (GMT -5)
Topic Replies: 11

There's not enough flaming in this thread. Anyway, my contrasting opinions..

mnemosyne wrote:

2. i love the 'play the game' argument in defense of killing turtles first. we are playing, we are watching, we are calculating, we are deciding when might be a good time to card, or make a move.

Correction- you are hoping. Either that, or improving position, accepting that you won't win. If you honestly want to tell me that you sit there thinking for more than a tenth of a second when turtling, I wouldn't believe you. Turtles just plop down their troops, and hope for someone else to mess up.

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3. turtles 'win' not by winning the battle always, that's a single-minded approach to war, but by improving position.

Okay, so how do you know when to turtle? How do you know when to give up the game and play for position. The problem is I see people start to play for position rather than for a win, far too prematurely.

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5. classic is one of my favorite places to turtle, just to make the game seem less like a simple mathematical formula. sometimes, classic especially is like playing in a room full of reapers and very one-dimensional. there is more to lux than plopping down your big sausage in asia and circle jerking around china.

This statement shows little to no understanding of the game. You act like classic is just a game of luck, then, if everyone follows this secret formula. Also, nice mature imagery.

Quote:

6. this one-dimensional 'kill, kill, kill' mentality without a more nuanced understanding of war has placed several countries in unpalatable strategic positions across the globe in the past several years.

Huh?! Lux does not equal war! It's a game, with a slight reference to war.

Community :: RE: turtle power!

Author: soundboy
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:44 am (GMT -5)
Topic Replies: 11

Packman wrote:

/me sighs

Anyone here ever heard of PackTurtle Wax? Turtling used to be a sound strategy. The problem as I see it is this, too many people turtle too often. Hell, last night I'm playing in a game and we had 3 of em by round 5. I've seen as many as 5 of them in a game. I've seen people in the army lead with NA turtle. I've seen people turtle from round 1 - without ever taking a card! Seriously? Look, I get that if you've been severely beat up and you've got only 10 or 12 armies and OZ and you're going to be the last to cash and probably wont survive the next turn, that your best chances of winning are to turtle. So forgive those of us who refuse to award turtling. I think I can speak for all of us when I say that it's an annoying problem with the game. I think it's actually working. I've noticed some people who used to turtle habitually will now make an effort to actually play. Probably because they see me in a game and know how likely it is that I'll bump em, pop em, or kill em. Funny, I've found the games more fun of late too......I wonder......

If you can kill a turtle first and win the game... I've got no problem with it.
If your play is simply to take out the turtle... well... you know my stance.
Turtles have longer memories than elephants... and our shells hurt - especially when you catch one in the temple.

Also of Note:
Donning my shell was probably the best thing that happened to my game.
In "making an effort to actually play", my success rate (i.e. wins) has gone down.
I am rarely caught in an "i didn't see that coming" moment, and I love the notion of giving myself an opportunity to win later in the game, when I would most certainly be dead before my next turn. Carding to simply be a sacrificial lamb and keep things moving takes no more skill than packing it and getting ready for an opportunity to turn a weak position into a winning position.
But of course, I also miss turns, lose connection, can't cash on 4, and make rusty n00b moves due to my lack off attention span for the game nowadays. So that can also explain my decline in performance.

Regardless, I think that if and when I ever come back to competing in the Tour De Farce, I will inevitably go back to playing like myself... because playing like I used to was when I played my best - even if my "best" was only mediocre in the grand scheme of things.

Community :: RE: turtle power!

Author: soundboy
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:39 am (GMT -5)
Topic Replies: 11

n00less cluebie wrote:

Wherein was created (alas now lost) a theme song for TMNS (any chance you still have this file Sound?)

n00less cluebie
Official Clown Reference Librarian

Of course I do... I'll email it back over to you.

Community :: RE: turtle power!

Author: n00less cluebie
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:34 am (GMT -5)
Topic Replies: 11

Umm....just a warning nemo. If TMNS (Teenage mutant Ninja soundboy) offers to let you 'wax his shell' just....pass....TRUST ME!

In any case, here are some more helpful threads that our Clown-Mod forgot to mention:

wherein we explore how to positively express anti-turtle aggression

A Modest Proposal for limiting Turtling in Marathons

http://sillysoft.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=15647[url]In which we look at how the RAW system encourages Turtling[/url]

Wherein was created (alas now lost) a theme song for TMNS (any chance you still have this file Sound?)

n00less cluebie
Official Clown Reference Librarian

Community :: RE: turtle power!

Author: Packman
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:34 am (GMT -5)
Topic Replies: 11

/me sighs

Anyone here ever heard of PackTurtle Wax? Turtling used to be a sound strategy. The problem as I see it is this, too many people turtle too often. Hell, last night I'm playing in a game and we had 3 of em by round 5. I've seen as many as 5 of them in a game. I've seen people in the army lead with NA turtle. I've seen people turtle from round 1 - without ever taking a card! Seriously? Look, I get that if you've been severely beat up and you've got only 10 or 12 armies and OZ and you're going to be the last to cash and probably wont survive the next turn, that your best chances of winning are to turtle. So forgive those of us who refuse to award turtling. I think I can speak for all of us when I say that it's an annoying problem with the game. I think it's actually working. I've noticed some people who used to turtle habitually will now make an effort to actually play. Probably because they see me in a game and know how likely it is that I'll bump em, pop em, or kill em. Funny, I've found the games more fun of late too......I wonder......